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Eight Follower Ganchos

Eight Follower Ganchos.  There are loads of types of Ganchos (or ‘Leg Hooks’), typically you start off with the 4 Common Ganchos that you see on a social dance floor quite frequently. As you grow into mastery over these there are Self Ganchos – Where the dancer (Lead or Follow) can Gancho themselves; There are Lead Ganchos, which don’t get a whole lot of play – Where the Lead self leads a Gancho onto and into the Follower’s open or free space between their steps; There are rotating Ganchos, as well as Volcada Ganchos, and lastly there are Gooey Ganchos, so named for their seemingly slow motion Gancho action. However one other class of Ganchos that is either misunderstood (for a good reason which we’ll get to in a moment) or just misused is a series of Follower Ganchos that for all intent and purposes look and feel like the 4 Common Ganchos mentioned above. However there is a very stark difference between those Ganchos, and what Tango Topics refers to as the Eight Follower Ganchos.

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What is a Gancho ? In it’s simplest form, in the modern vernacular of Tango, it is a hooking of the free leg around your partner’s leg or thigh. More the thigh more than anything else. Secondarily, it is an interruption of the extension phase of the step, which can (not always) result in the lifting of the respondent’s leg either as a result of, or by deliberate intention to generate a “Gancho”.

What are the Eight Follower Ganchos ? The Eight Follower Ganchos are Ganchos that look very similar to the 4 Common Ganchos with one major difference: These Ganchos have NO invasion to them. In the 4 Common Ganchos the Lead is creating a Gancho (hook) by invading the Follower’s free space between their steps/legs, and as they do, the Lead continues their torso rotation while articulating their receiving Gancho leg. That receiving leg is the leg that is invading the Follower’s space. In the Eight Follower Ganchos, there is no invasion of the Follower’s free space. None. Further, and quite possibly, more importantly, this series of Ganchos is built off the Follower’s Over-Rotated Ocho which could be the beginnings of the Follower’s Back Sacada but is interrupted instead, and we end up with a Gancho and not a Sacada! It should be noted that in the 4 Common Ganchos we build the Gancho off the Follower’s Circular Back Ocho. In this case, we are extending that to the Over-Rotated Ochos. So instead of 90 degree rotations in Ochos, we’re looking at 180 rotations Ochos. Hence the reason they’re called Over-Rotated Ochos!

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From the Social Dancer’s point of view, you’re never going to use this stuff. Maybe once in a blue moon, but in reality the better that you get, the less you use this stuff. From their point of view, it’s four pieces of vocabulary that you need: The 6 Ways of Walking, Traveling Ochos/Milonguero Ochos, The Follower’s Molinete/The Milonguero Turn, and lastly – The Argentine Cross. That’s it. That’s all you need. From the Dancer’s point of view that’s hasn’t mastered this stuff yet, this is cool and you want to play with it, and to be able to master it. To find it’s in’s, out’s, how’s, and why’s, and mostly to have fun with it. Both points have their merits.

And now to the one twist in our point that you probably weren’t expecting. This stuff actually has validity, maybe not from a social dancing perspective, immediately, but more from a movement, and musical perspective. The fact is that this is all about one thing and one thing only: Skillz!

There’s a reason you study vocabulary like this, and it’s not because it’s cool (it can be), or that’s it’s musical (it is), or that it’s fun (it is that), or that it adds a little spice and variety now again (the once in a blue moon methodology). It’s because it’s all about your Foundation. Or put another way, because this vocabulary works your foundation in a really good way, by breaking down the movements to their component elements, so then you can become a much more fluid dancer so that you can use it, or not. It’s about availability, accessibility. Not about using it. Using it is entirely up you. But working the instrument, that’s what this vocabulary does. It works your instrument, … ahem…that’s you in case you weren’t paying attention.

No one wants to admit that they need help. That their dance isn’t stellar. Furthermore, you really don’t know that your dancing skills aren’t absolutely amazing until you see a room full of people all dancing way better than you are. And then you see it and feel like the poor cousin at the kiddie table during a holiday meal. There’s a reason those people have achieved ‘better’. It’s doing work like what you see in the video above. Being able to turn this stuff on and off as if it were a switch. A good portion of the time when we’re dancing we only think about the ‘cool’ toys in our dancing and we neglect the one thing that makes those cool toys possible: Our Foundation. That is, in case you’re not paying attention, this video series and others like it.


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About The Video. This video is 14m:09s in length in 7 sections. Both lead and follower vocabulary is combined and integrated into the video. There is virtually no technique instruction in this video. Please see 4 Common Ganchos for Technique instruction.

Introduction – 00:00:37
Setting Up The Follower – 00:02:50
The Other Follower Gancho – 00:01:05
The Weight Change Follower Gancho – 00:03:03
The Lead’s Forward Step Gancho – 00:01:41
The Awkward Follower Gancho – 00:03:07
Closure – 00:01:18

Related Videos Mentioned In This Article: 

The Six Ways of WalkingDownload
DisassociationDefinition/Download
Applied DisassociationDefinition/Download
Over-Rotated Ochos – Download
Follower Back Sacadas – Article/Download
4 Common Ganchos – Article/Download

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Remember that what you’re seeing is a couple that is performing for the 15th row for a room full of people, they’re not social dancing. Whereas this website is all about ‘Social Dancing’  or how to make things function on a social dance floor. Social Dance floor ? Your local milonga! They’re showing flashy moves as a presentation! But not stopping and talking about how this works, why you’d want to put that piece of vocabulary there, or how to make things fit. This website is all about those things and more!

You could watch those videos and thereby spend your time, trying to infer, and figure out how things may work in that particular situation. Bend your body this way or that, twist and force this position or that. Place your foot here or there and figure it out. This is known as Tango Twister.  Which can be a lot of fun, but more than likely it won’t help you, because you’re missing something: The explanation from an experienced teacher showing you how to properly excute this stuff from a Leading Perspective as well as from a Following Perspective!

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